Car Sales Data (2021)

**jut703** · February 3rd, 2022 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by ice15

I agree that the the Coolray (etc) outsold the Corolla (etc)

However you also have to consider that Compact Sedans are way more expensive compared to the Coolray/Territory/MG

(est) 300K diff is a considerable amount of cash and technically the local Japanese brands only have the Rush, BR-V, Xpander Cross and XL-7 as direct competitors to the "Chinese Crossovers"

I view it differently - new gen compacts are now priced higher because they know they won’t have volume to drive bottomline so they’re working with higher margins with the assumption of lower sales anyway.

Even if they priced the new Civic at 1.15M vs 1.3M, they still wouldn’t move much units because the market has really shifted to crossovers. Might as well milk the remaining niche who still prefer sedans.

People will only buy sedans when they can’t afford higher cars. With the condition of our roads in the country, it’s an inevitable shift.

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**viper888** · February 3rd, 2022 11:43 AM

The 5 series is good "value" now. I believe the cheapest variant is only 300k more expensive than the cheapest variant of the 3 series.

**ice15** · February 3rd, 2022 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

People will only buy sedans when they can’t afford higher cars. With the condition of our roads in the country, it’s an inevitable shift.

hahaha... same point I have to people buying a Vios... they can't afford a Corolla, and the Wigo guys can't buy a Vios

Originally Posted by jut703

Even if they priced the new Civic at 1.15M vs 1.3M, they still wouldn’t move much units because the market has really shifted to crossovers. Might as well milk the remaining niche who still prefer sedans.

sa akin naman... if they priced the Corolla and Civic around the 1M mark, that will complicate things with their TOTL City and Vios.

if you notice, I only looked at the 1.6M versions of the compact sedans, I think its not right to look at their entry level variants.

It would be nice if manufacturers could also provide a report of the breakdown of their sales per model.

NO sense comparing a Vios E/J/XE to a Coolray/Territory. Pero I would want to see how many Vios G and City RS/CVT were sold vs the Chinese Crossovers.

IMO, walang local competition si Coolray and Territory.

Kaya natawa ako kay Toyota when they released the Raize to compete with the Tigo, Stonic and Venue

**_Cathy_** · February 3rd, 2022 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

People will only buy sedans when they can’t afford higher cars. With the condition of our roads in the country, it’s an inevitable shift.

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Common na ba all SUVs ang auto? My Dad kasi, he has a car for different "needs" for example there is a van, pick up/suv, compact and midsize etc. I get the compact

Basta the minimum I would drive is a 1.6 compact, I refuse to drive anything smaller. But then again, if budget wasn't an issue I want a bigger vehicle

Originally Posted by ice15

hahaha... same point I have to people buying a Vios... they can't afford a Corolla, and the Wigo guys can't buy a Vios

bakit naman si dr d may corolla and wigo

There was a time when I thought of getting a wigo but my Mom would not allow me. It's dangerous daw, I do agree especially when you do highway driving often, kasabay mo 10 wheelers

**thearsenal1205** · February 3rd, 2022 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by viper888

The 5 series is good "value" now. I believe the cheapest variant is only 300k more expensive than the cheapest variant of the 3 series.

It's because BMW PH sources the 5 series now from Malaysia instead in Germany.

**jut703** · February 3rd, 2022 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by ice15

hahaha... same point I have to people buying a Vios... they can't afford a Corolla, and the Wigo guys can't buy a Vios

sa akin naman... if they priced the Corolla and Civic around the 1M mark, that will complicate things with their TOTL City and Vios.

if you notice, I only looked at the 1.6M versions of the compact sedans, I think its not right to look at their entry level variants.

It would be nice if manufacturers could also provide a report of the breakdown of their sales per model.

NO sense comparing a Vios E/J/XE to a Coolray/Territory. Pero I would want to see how many Vios G and City RS/CVT were sold vs the Chinese Crossovers.

IMO, walang local competition si Coolray and Territory.

Kaya natawa ako kay Toyota when they released the Raize to compete with the Tigo, Stonic and Venue

The way I see it, the default options per price point:

600-700k: Wigo, Mirage G4
700k-1M: Vios, City, Raize
1M-1.2M: Rush, Xpander, Territory, Coolray
1.3M-1.6M: Pickups, Innova
1.5M-2M: PPV

Niche cars nalang compact sedans (Civic/Altis) and Japanese compact crossovers (CRV, XV, CX5).

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**jut703** · February 3rd, 2022 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by _Cathy_

Common na ba all SUVs ang auto?

In our family yes, it’s going that way.

Last year we had 3 sedans, 2 crossovers. Right now we still have 2 sedans but will sell one soon. By next year we’ll only have 1 sedan left.

I personally love sedans but it’s just not as functional as a crossover or PPV, so one nice sedan in the garage is fine.

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**ice15** · February 3rd, 2022 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by _Cathy_

bakit naman si dr d may corolla and wigo

There was a time when I thought of getting a wigo but my Mom would not allow me.

there's always exemptions to the rule... my dad chose an Adventure even if he can afford basically anything he wants under 10M.

of the 35K buyers of the Vios last year, how many do you think considered the Corolla as an alternative?

**hardwang** · February 3rd, 2022 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

In our family yes, it’s going that way.

Last year we had 3 sedans, 2 crossovers. Right now we still have 2 sedans but will sell one soon. By next year we’ll only have 1 sedan left.

I personally love sedans but it’s just not as functional as a crossover or PPV, so one nice sedan in the garage is fine.

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Dapat yung sedan na maiiwan yung nakakahuli ng kiliti. 😂

**Akky M** · February 3rd, 2022 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by jut703

In our family yes, it’s going that way.

Last year we had 3 sedans, 2 crossovers. Right now we still have 2 sedans but will sell one soon. By next year we’ll only have 1 sedan left.

I personally love sedans but it’s just not as functional as a crossover or PPV, so one nice sedan in the garage is fine.

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It’s the condition of our road in pinas that mostly drives the buyer to go for suv, crossover and ppv.

I also used to drive sedan but has shifted to CRV/CX5.

Im not into a PPV, its always a choice.

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