Car Sales Data (2021)

**viper888** · February 3rd, 2022 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by ice15

2021 Philippine auto sales at 294,223 units, up 18.56% | Autoindustriya

What I'm surprised with is BMW far outselling Lexus and Mercedes. They did recently release a new 3-series though. All three outsold Volkswagen and Peugeot.

**dr. d** · February 3rd, 2022 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by viper888

What I'm surprised with is BMW far outselling Lexus and Mercedes.

"money to burn."
heh heh.

sour grapes.

if i have to guess, "company car".

years ago,
we had this colleague known for his practical style.
he had recently been employed by a europe-based multinational.
he was driving a volvo.
so i asked why.
"company policy. at my position in the company, this was what i was entitled to."

years later, he had retired and we met again.
"what happened to the volvo?"
"it's a money pit to maintain. toyota nako. more practical."

**jut703** · February 3rd, 2022 10:42 AM

A few tidbits that I found interesting:

1. Hyundai declined by another 40%, after already declining 50% last year. A far, far cry from Hyundai in the 2010s when they were 3rd.

2. Enthusiast sites that are famous on the internet aren’t so famous in real life. The CR-V outsold all Subarus combined, the Corolla Cross outsold all Mazdas combined.

3. Toyota has gained more share than any other brand at +3.7 share points. To be market leader and grow that much share is an impressive feat.

4. Volkswagen only sold 441 units, 1/3 of their 2017 number. I wonder if the move to China-produced models has improved their bottom-line, because it has clearly killed their top-line.

5. Mercedes was previously the market leader in the premium segment, but has now been overtaken by both BMW and Lexus. China-sourced new G20 3-series was a hit.

6. The PPV market is consolidating, over half of all PPVs are Fortuners (13k) vs Montero (4.2k), Terra (4k), Everest (1.8k), and MUX (1.1k).

7. Compact sedans are truly a dying breed. The Coolray (3.2k) has outsold all compacts combined - Civic (1.3k), Altis (706), Sylphy (136). No Mazda 3 numbers yet but for sure less than 500 units sold.

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**babkalakal** · February 3rd, 2022 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

"money to burn."
heh heh.

sour grapes.

gusto ko din ng BMW pero straight 6 na gas.
yung ganito:

wala ako pali alam kung mag mukhang pang dom hehe. joking aside i like this m635csi.

**dr. d** · February 3rd, 2022 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by babkalakal

gusto ko din ng BMW pero straight 6 na gas.
yung ganito:

wala ako pali alam kung mag mukhang pang dom hehe. joking aside i like this m635csi.

it doesn't look dom-ish.
it looks like classic good taste.

i have always wondered how i'd look like, driving a bmw 507 to the workplace...

**babkalakal** · February 3rd, 2022 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

A few tidbits that I found interesting:

1. Hyundai declined by another 40%, after already declining 50% last year. A far, far cry from Hyundai in the 2010s when they were 3rd.

2. Enthusiast sites that are famous on the internet aren’t so famous in real life. The CR-V outsold all Subarus combined, the Corolla Cross outsold all Mazdas combined.

3. Toyota has gained more share than any other brand at +3.7 share points. To be market leader and grow that much share is an impressive feat.

4. Volkswagen only sold 441 units, 1/3 of their 2017 number. I wonder if the move to China-produced models has improved their bottom-line, because it has clearly killed their top-line.

5. Mercedes was previously the market leader in the premium segment, but has now been overtaken by both BMW and Lexus. China-sourced new G20 3-series was a hit.

6. The PPV market is consolidating, over half of all PPVs are Fortuners (13k) vs Montero (4.2k), Terra (4k), Everest (1.8k), and MUX (1.1k).

7. Compact sedans are truly a dying breed. The Coolray (3.2k) has outsold all compacts combined - Civic (1.3k), Altis (706), Sylphy (136). No Mazda 3 numbers yet but for sure less than 500 units sold.

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nang hihinayang ako sa hyundai. they built up all the equity based on their value for money only to squander it away. i will guess this can be attributed to their pricing. maybe taxes or what not. they can pose themselves as a premium brand or euro alternative but clearly that hasn't been accepted by the buying public. also bukod sa mahal medyo long in the tooth na yung suv offerings nila.

as with subaru. enthusiast driven mainly and they are a small minority. it would be nice to see yung spread ng sales ng wrx/sti vs regular na impreza. as a corolla or civic alternative mauuna talaga bilhin ang honda at toyota just by brand recall. to the uninitiated yung impreza minsan natatanong "ano yan corolla?"

**babkalakal** · February 3rd, 2022 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by dr. d

it doesn't look dom-ish.
it looks like classic good taste.

i have always wondered how i'd look like, driving a bmw 507 to the workplace...

a young elvis pressley?

**ice15** · February 3rd, 2022 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by viper888

What I'm surprised with is BMW far outselling Lexus and Mercedes. They did recently release a new 3-series though. All three outsold Volkswagen and Peugeot.

my boss replaced his Audi with a 5 series last year...

according to him.

5 series is a better car than his Audi
he gets more features compared to the similar priced MB

**ice15** · February 3rd, 2022 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by jut703

7. Compact sedans are truly a dying breed. The Coolray (3.2k) has outsold all compacts combined - Civic (1.3k), Altis (706), Sylphy (136). No Mazda 3 numbers yet but for sure less than 500 units sold.

I agree that the the Coolray (etc) outsold the Corolla (etc)

However you also have to consider that Compact Sedans are way more expensive compared to the Coolray/Territory/MG

(est) 300K diff is a considerable amount of cash and technically the local Japanese brands only have the Rush, BR-V, Xpander Cross and XL-7 as direct competitors to the "Chinese Crossovers"