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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    I'm quite disturbed with it because the 120d/320d diesel engine of the same displacement is more powerful (163 vs. 150 hp), quicker, faster and more economical. This alone doesn't do it justice at all. This is a sure sign that BMW's fiercest foe can indeed be itself.

    BMW's 2-liter designation is back with a 4-cylinder engine (from a 6-cylinder 2.2-liter), but with less power (170 before). I'm not sure why BMW built this engine with modest power. Being a top performer in most comparisons, I expected them to come up with around 170 hp as well, or perhaps even more. Not only are the new 4-cylinder BMW models rather close in power, but their performance is so much apart from the 6-cylinder variants (the least powerful 325i now has 215 hp).

    The bottom line is, what's the point of this engine?

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    so that they can give a more economical package / engine?

    compared to the old 2.0L engine (powering the 318i), it had a slight improvement already (140 to 150 hp).

    heck, they still even are offering the 316i with 115hp. some people are not really hp crazy and are already content with that kind of engine.

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    The E81 and E90 use a more powerful and more economic engines as compared to the previous 2L petrol found in the E46. I think BMW Phil didnt bring in the diesel because of market perception that diesels are only good if they're large displacement like the 3L diesel engines found in the x5 and 5er.

    If BMW offered the full range of the E90 I expect a large bulk of buyers would opt for a the 320d. It just makes too much sense.

    320d (diesel turbo)
    Max output (kW/bhp/rpm) 120/163/4000
    Max torque (Nm/rpm) 340/2000

    320i
    Max output (kW/bhp/rpm) 110/150/6200
    Max torque (Nm/rpm) 200/3600

    325i
    Max output (kW/bhp/rpm) 160/218/6500
    Max torque (Nm/rpm) 250/2750

    330i
    Max output (kW/bhp/rpm) 190/258/6600
    Max torque (Nm/rpm) 300/2500

    Here's a video review of the 320d.

    [code]http://www.e90post.com/goodiesforyou/e90fifthgear.wmv[/code]
    Last edited by OTO; May 8th, 2005 at 02:34 PM.

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    btw,

    the 320i is 95kg lighter than the 320d. autocar mentioned that the chassis of the 320i is more balanced than that of the 320d. ;)

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    It still doesn't do the car justice if a diesel engine with the same displacement is more powerful. If you've read the 320i article, it's hard to justify buying that car over the 320d. I personally don't think people will choose a car with slightly better balance and engine sound over a faster, yet more efficient vehicle.

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    FYI: BMW does not sell brandnew 316i anymore... kahit e46 body... puro 318i and up... puro pre-owned and 316i...

    if you want to buy BMW just message me. thanks!

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