Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

[dprox]

Hey guys, where are you getting all your motors and gears? Parang may budget, a. Just giving you a heads-up, in case consumers can't afford it and we have to resort to much-vaunted woman-power. The other issue is that rear door is going to open and close a lot if it's used as a commuter. I'd hate to be the top hinge. You may want to consider other location options for the reserve. 2 cents.
Anyways, I do believe we are actually designing (!) and that's what this thread is all about.
Avanti, ragazzi! Siamo in ritardo!

[dprox]

mas talagang maganda siguro if everybody can 3D na.

Pinakamaganda siguro if all you IT/computer guys in this forum can put together a quick seminar on 3D modelling. I'm willing to bet maraming mag-eenrol. What 3D program might be best for a crash course for enthusiasts? Sketchup? Dapat user friendly and not-so-steep learning curve.
Maybe OyiL, architect and orly can work that one out. Suggestion lang.

[drey]

I know all about that. That is why I said ".. in a reasonable time."

If you put too much gearing down so that your small motor can raise the wheel, there certainly will be torque, but due to the large gear ratio it will take forever to raise the wheel.

yes, thats another thing about this one... it may finish hiding itself in maybe less than 30 seconds but that still lame... It may be out of place on an entry level vehicle pero its a also nice to have it in here, but as of now, di pa to pwede kasi we are on a tight budget... maybe soon in our updated versions of the PhUV.

[orly_andico]

Maybe what the big boy carmakers are doing is the correct way of doing it:

use a "donut" spare.

It's smaller AND lighter!

[niky]

Maybe what the big boy carmakers are doing is the correct way of doing it:

use a "donut" spare.

It's smaller AND lighter!

Yup... saves money, too... 1000 pesos or so at Banaue.


Just don't forget to... *ahem* ...paint over the rust on the rim...

[OyiL]

ito ba yun?

edit:ay mali! his one pala

[architect]

Re teaching 3D software - I can ask one of my scholars to teach 3D Studio Max Saturday afternoons. If informal environment like Starbucks, 3-4 guys would be fine. If larger group, you will need to find a conference room.

The guy lives in the Paco-Pandacan area but comes over to my home office in San Juan to do his stuff.

Oh yeah. BYON - bring your own notebook.

[ogpro]

Yup... saves money, too... 1000 pesos or so at Banaue.


Just don't forget to... *ahem* ...paint over the rust on the rim...

hehe, true that. Would love to see discussion on the more pertinent issues, gas mileage, engine, drive-train, safety features...

Lets try not to get so caught up on the little details, esp the ones that have been conquered by other manufacturers AND (more importantly) are already accepted by consumers. The job is done there, move on.

Not to sound chauvanistic, but I don't even see a whole lot of women operating this phuv (it is after all a utility vehicle), so lets not concentrate so much on making it easier for women for women to change a tire (which builds on the rare premise that a woman would be driving a utility vehicle and the even rarer incident of flat tires). In any case, I believe filipino men are known for their helpful nature, she'll be fine. =)

Meaning, don't spend too much resources on too little utility. It's one thing to be practical, it's another to over-think things, you'll get very little done that way. Lets concentrate on the details that will get used the most in the day to day operations of this vehicle.

[dprox]

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[oldblue]

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[jpdm]

.... that I'm not going to let you get away with calling people names and then walk away from it. Your colors are showing..AND it ain't pretty. You just displayed the pinoy's biggest obstacle, themselves...
you flip out and call them negative instead of dealing with it. That's something your nationalistic rah rah rah isn't going to fix.

OGPRO, THIS IS THE 2ND TIME YOU CALLED ME NAMES. WHAT IS WRONG IF I EXPRESS MY OPINION ABOUT THE PHUV PROJECT? YOU CALL ME IMMATURE... BECAUSE IM TRYING TO RALLY SOME PEOPLE NOT TO FALTER AND LET THE PHUV PROJECT--MVPMAP, TSIKOT, CHOKARAN ETC. TO WORK?

AM I NOT ENCOURAGING PROPONENTS OF THE PHUV PROJECT TO CONTINUE WORKING NOT ONLY AT THE CONCEPTUAL STAGE BUT UNTIL THE FINAL PRODUCTION STAGE, BY AT LEAST ASSURING THEM THAT THERE WILL BE PEOPLE, A NICHE, A MARKET SEGMENT, WHO WILL BUY THE PRODUCT?

di BA ENTREPERENEUR KA? KUNG maibebenta produkto SA PAMAMAGITAN NG PAGKUROT SA DAMDAMING MAKABAYAN NG PINOY, WHY NOT EMPLOY THE STRATEGY? NOW, IF MIRACULOUSLY, YOU GAINED SOME ADHERENTS, DI BA, YOU CAN NOW PLAN HOW THE PHUV MODELS WILL SATISFY THAT TARGET MARKET?

TUTAL, INAAYOS PA MGA PHUV MODELS,CGURO LET ME REMIND YOU ABOUT THE ELEMENTARY---FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS IN ECONOMICS/PRODUCTION.

1. WHAT TO PRODUCE? (e.g. PRODUCT TYPE: PHUV)
2. HOW TO PRODUCE? (e.g.TECHNOLOGY/METHODOLOGY)
3. FOR WHOM TO PRODUCE? (e.g.TARGET MARKET: PUV MARKET)

WHAT IS WRONG IF IM PASSIONATE ABOUT THE FUTURE---A FUTURE, WHEN I WILL SEE VEHICLES BEARING THE NAMES OF FILIPINOS?

KOREANS ARE SO PROUD OF THEIR HYUNDAIs WHICH OBVIOUSLY CAME FROM HUMBLE BEGINNINGS, WHY NOT US? YOU CALL THAT IMMATURITY? iM BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE?MASYADONG MABIBIGAT ANG PBINIBITIWAN MONG SALITA SA AKIN.

KUNG AWAY MO NG NATIONALISM, PABAYAAN MO AKO AND STOP CALLING NAMES.

IM SORRY, MODERATOR, PLEASE POST THIS HERE SA THREAD NA ITO, GINAGAWA NA AKONG KATAWA-TAWA NITONG OGPRO NA ITO.

I THOUGHT EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION IN THIS THREAD?

[ogpro]

.... that I'm not going to let you get away with calling people names and then walk away from it. Your colors are showing..AND it ain't pretty. You just displayed the pinoy's biggest obstacle, themselves...
you flip out and call them negative instead of dealing with it. That's something your nationalistic rah rah rah isn't going to fix.

OGPRO, THIS IS THE 2ND TIME YOU CALLED ME NAMES. WHAT IS WRONG IF I EXPRESS MY OPINION ABOUT THE PHUV PROJECT? YOU CALL ME IMMATURE... BECAUSE IM TRYING TO RALLY SOME PEOPLE NOT TO FALTER AND LET THE PHUV PROJECT--MVPMAP, TSIKOT, CHOKARAN ETC. TO WORK?

AM I NOT ENCOURAGING PROPONENTS OF THE PHUV PROJECT TO CONTINUE WORKING NOT ONLY AT THE CONCEPTUAL STAGE BUT UNTIL THE FINAL PRODUCTION STAGE, BY AT LEAST ASSURING THEM THAT THERE WILL BE PEOPLE, A NICHE, A MARKET SEGMENT, WHO WILL BUY THE PRODUCT?

di BA ENTREPERENEUR KA? KUNG maibebenta produkto SA PAMAMAGITAN NG PAGKUROT SA DAMDAMING MAKABAYAN NG PINOY, WHY NOT EMPLOY THE STRATEGY? NOW, IF MIRACULOUSLY, YOU GAINED SOME ADHERENTS, DI BA, YOU CAN NOW PLAN HOW THE PHUV MODELS WILL SATISFY THAT TARGET MARKET?

TUTAL, INAAYOS PA MGA PHUV MODELS,CGURO LET ME REMIND YOU ABOUT THE ELEMENTARY---FUNDAMENTAL QUESTIONS IN ECONOMICS/PRODUCTION.

1. WHAT TO PRODUCE? (e.g. PRODUCT TYPE: PHUV)
2. HOW TO PRODUCE? (e.g.TECHNOLOGY/METHODOLOGY)
3. FOR WHOM TO PRODUCE? (e.g.TARGET MARKET: PUV MARKET)

WHAT IS WRONG IF IM PASSIONATE ABOUT THE FUTURE---A FUTURE, WHEN I WILL SEE VEHICLES BEARING THE NAMES OF FILIPINOS?

KOREANS ARE SO PROUD OF THEIR HYUNDAIs WHICH OBVIOUSLY CAME FROM HUMBLE BEGINNINGS, WHY NOT US? YOU CALL THAT IMMATURITY? iM BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE?MASYADONG MABIBIGAT ANG PBINIBITIWAN MONG SALITA SA AKIN.

KUNG AWAY MO NG NATIONALISM, PABAYAAN MO AKO AND STOP CALLING NAMES.

IM SORRY, MODERATOR, PLEASE POST THIS HERE SA THREAD NA ITO, GINAGAWA NA AKONG KATAWA-TAWA NITONG OGPRO NA ITO.

I THOUGHT EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION IN THIS THREAD?

Settled in PM.

[foifoi05]

I also like the Tableta. Its quirky design reminds me of old Citroens and Renaults and the more recent Nissan S-Cargo. Just add flared wheel arches (bevelled of course) and move the front wheels forward.

foifoi05's other design looks wicked. Lots of complex curves. Are we capable of fabricating it?

Somebody please make a 3D drawing of the Tableta and its devilish companion. And safeorigin's slope nosed PhUV too.

ask and you shall receive! hehe the tableta only, the second one may bayad na, joke, di ko pa kaya. Anyway here's my 3d rendition of the tableta phuv, didnt put effort on the texturing but atleast the point is there.


available in ube, macapuno, etc....

[foifoi05]

double post sorry

[OyiL]

*foi

ang bangis mo! 3D din ba ung building?

[ehnriko]

Hi Oyil, Dprox and Architect and Everyone!

I am happy that the fire Oyil started a while back is now becoming a FireBall! Keep it burning guys!

heres a glimpse to my secret 3D designs.... sorry - spy shots lang ito.

just to add fuel to the fire...

regards.

[jpdm]

I am definitely impressed with the designs and PHUV renditions showed here especially the model in 3D.

I think dprox, Im am now convinced of asking some people to consider and include a separate design course...

These design models, in the case of the Philippines and the local backyard auto industry, will revolutionalize the production and image of local AUVs and if all these will be put into production, these will transform our urban and rural transport (PUV segment)landscape!

Tanong ko lang po, with limited resources (no stamping plant) it is possible to alter (with curves)the looks of boxy local AUVs? Then, is it possible to speed up production in case there will be bulk orders? Is the design team, which Im hoping, will go to the lego type interchangeable parts especially the body frames and kits? Can it be possible to fabricate quality and impressive grills, dashboard and instrument panels (weakness nila) without spending to much?My study shows that we Filipinos love to accessorize.

Actually these questions came from people (backyard assemblers)who realized that sticking to their archaic production method will not bring in more customers.

[architect]

*foifoi5

[architect]

Hi Oyil, Dprox and Architect and Everyone!

I am happy that the fire Oyil started a while back is now becoming a FireBall! Keep it burning guys!

heres a glimpse to my secret 3D designs.... sorry - spy shots lang ito.

just to add fuel to the fire...

regards.

Glad you can drop by.

[lytspid]

sirs, good thing may mga plans na pla to build up our own phuv,id just like to share something based on our experience, we have a fiberglass business before which builds cars for taxi made up of fiberglass reinforce with chasis,ive been hlping in the design in the prototypes,only problem we had is we are limited in the design to the availablity of the parts that floods in the market..like doors,windshields,headlights and tail lights to dashboards,in this manner consumers are able to replace every part at a lower cost if damaged occurs and the supply is abundant, in the design aspect there could be no bounderies if we can build and create our own supply of parts and accesories..as i have seen and read in some prototypes in creating a phuv ,we have come up with problem of fuel consumption and engineering..id like to ask a question if the design of our phuv will be limited to surplus parts from japan or are we going to manufacture our own parts from the chasis to the engine...coz i for one loves to design automobiles and its my favorite past time..only thing that hinders are the availablity of parts..as function follows form or form follows function...