Tsikot.ph PHUV Prototype

[drey]

Drey, thanks for cleaning my my handsketch! DonBuggy's version is good, enough to challenge me. . The only thing left going for my version is the space it occupies when its released, and the spare is ready for loading/unloading. Kung pwede, I'll mount a motor inside it so it goes up/down like a forklift.

Still in my thinking chair for the pick-up version. Since there's no secured locks to speak of, I still want a "quick-release" for the user, but hell for the would-be thief.

yes, don buggy really has some good stuff...

A motor powerful enough to lift a 50-pound wheel in a reasonable span of time would be quite beefy, and expensive. It would add complexity as well.

orly, actually we can even if its carrying a 50 pound wheel. Ever thought about Mountain Bike gears when shifted to very low gears? Magaan diba? Reliability wise din kasi the gears will last for decades, just make sure that it is lubricated everytime it gets noisy.

[orly_andico]

orly, actually we can even if its carrying a 50 pound wheel. Ever thought about Mountain Bike gears when shifted to very low gears? Magaan diba? Reliability wise din kasi the gears will last for decades, just make sure that it is lubricated everytime it gets noisy.

I know all about that. That is why I said ".. in a reasonable time."

If you put too much gearing down so that your small motor can raise the wheel, there certainly will be torque, but due to the large gear ratio it will take forever to raise the wheel.

For an application such as this one, a motor such as the windshield wiper motor would be too small. Also a gear train is not cheap. I think this "feature" is a nice-to-have on the same level as the motorized trunk opener and closer on the 7-series BMW. In other words, out of place on an entry-level utility vehicle.

[dprox]

Hey guys, where are you getting all your motors and gears? Parang may budget, a. Just giving you a heads-up, in case consumers can't afford it and we have to resort to much-vaunted woman-power. The other issue is that rear door is going to open and close a lot if it's used as a commuter. I'd hate to be the top hinge. You may want to consider other location options for the reserve. 2 cents.
Anyways, I do believe we are actually designing (!) and that's what this thread is all about.
Avanti, ragazzi! Siamo in ritardo!

[drey]

I know all about that. That is why I said ".. in a reasonable time."

If you put too much gearing down so that your small motor can raise the wheel, there certainly will be torque, but due to the large gear ratio it will take forever to raise the wheel.

yes, thats another thing about this one... it may finish hiding itself in maybe less than 30 seconds but that still lame... It may be out of place on an entry level vehicle pero its a also nice to have it in here, but as of now, di pa to pwede kasi we are on a tight budget... maybe soon in our updated versions of the PhUV.

[orly_andico]

Maybe what the big boy carmakers are doing is the correct way of doing it:

use a "donut" spare.

It's smaller AND lighter!

[niky]

Maybe what the big boy carmakers are doing is the correct way of doing it:

use a "donut" spare.

It's smaller AND lighter!

Yup... saves money, too... 1000 pesos or so at Banaue.


Just don't forget to... *ahem* ...paint over the rust on the rim...

[OyiL]

ito ba yun?

edit:ay mali! his one pala

[architect]

Re teaching 3D software - I can ask one of my scholars to teach 3D Studio Max Saturday afternoons. If informal environment like Starbucks, 3-4 guys would be fine. If larger group, you will need to find a conference room.

The guy lives in the Paco-Pandacan area but comes over to my home office in San Juan to do his stuff.

Oh yeah. BYON - bring your own notebook.

[ogpro]

Yup... saves money, too... 1000 pesos or so at Banaue.


Just don't forget to... *ahem* ...paint over the rust on the rim...

hehe, true that. Would love to see discussion on the more pertinent issues, gas mileage, engine, drive-train, safety features...

Lets try not to get so caught up on the little details, esp the ones that have been conquered by other manufacturers AND (more importantly) are already accepted by consumers. The job is done there, move on.

Not to sound chauvanistic, but I don't even see a whole lot of women operating this phuv (it is after all a utility vehicle), so lets not concentrate so much on making it easier for women for women to change a tire (which builds on the rare premise that a woman would be driving a utility vehicle and the even rarer incident of flat tires). In any case, I believe filipino men are known for their helpful nature, she'll be fine. =)

Meaning, don't spend too much resources on too little utility. It's one thing to be practical, it's another to over-think things, you'll get very little done that way. Lets concentrate on the details that will get used the most in the day to day operations of this vehicle.