Learn from The Chinese and Indian Auto Industry Model

[kulotz]

well hindi ko na masasagot yan hehe kailangan ng matinding study about dito pati kailangan ng matinding capital ang kailangan. dibale pag nanalo ako ng lotto magkaron ng negosyo tapos yumaman ng sobra trtry ko ang risk hwehwehwe nangarap na naman ako

[jpdm]

well unless na parang gumawa ang pinoy ng super car with all the features na inaadmire ng pinoy tapos presyuhan ng mura.:P

well opinion lang hehe

Well, no one knows really. Walang makapagsasabi.

Tsaka wag kang aasa sa mga nanghuhula lang, lalo na yung mga self-styled prophet of boom or doom .hehehe

Papatok o hindi pumatok yan. Lahat ay may posibilidad.

But, if your business is back up with a good feasibility and business plan baka may pag-asa na mabenta yung dream Pinoy supercar mo.

opinyon lang.hehehe

[uls]

build a concept car

enter it into carshows to gauge public interest

if there's strong interest (like people repeatedly asking if it will go into production)...

or if there's actual intent-to-buy (like actual offers to buy the car on display)

that's when you can say you're on the right track

that's how it will start

i'm not a total pessimist

i'm just not delusional

[kulotz]

Well, no one knows really. Walang makapagsasabi.

Tsaka wag kang aasa sa mga nanghuhula lang, lalo na yung mga self-styled prophet of boom or doom .hehehe

Papatok o hindi pumatok yan. Lahat ay may posibilidad.

But, if your business is back up with a good feasibility and business plan baka may pag-asa na mabenta yung dream Pinoy supercar mo.

opinyon lang.hehehe

haha nasa swerte lang naman yan at sa pagiging prepared talaga. well sa ngayon nangangarap lang ako hehe libre lang mangarap

[jpdm]

haha nasa swerte lang naman yan at sa pagiging prepared talaga. well sa ngayon nangangarap lang ako hehe libre lang mangarap

Tama yan.

Basta paalala uli, mas maniwala ka sa ginawa mong business plan keysa sa mga feeling na alam lahat, yung pakiramdam ay propeta ba, yun pala bolang kristal lang ang kaharap o nagbabasa lang ng palad..hehehe. Baka kasi masiraan ka lang ng loob.

Opinyon ko lang..

[jpdm]

Mahindra pick up.

Kaya yan ng FMC sana ito...

[jpdm]

Mahindra Jeep.

Kaya ng MDJuan ito

[jpdm]

Mahindra Doppelkabine



Kaya ng local AUV assemblers ito..

[uls]

kayang kaya nga

baket hindi mag mass produce?

kasi alam ng mga lokal na negosyante (yung mga tao na may experience talaga sa pagpatakbo ng business, hindi yung mga tao na puro theory lang) na hindi nila kaya makipaglaban sa mga may size advantage

kasi pag may size advantage, meron ung tinatawag na "economies of scale"

gaano kalaki ba ang Mahindra & Mahindra?
wiki:

Mahindra & Mahindra grew from being a maker of army vehicles to a major automobile and tractor manufacturer. It has acquired plants in China[7] and the United Kingdom[8], and has three assembly plants in the USA. M&M has partnerships with international companies like Renault SA, France[9] and International Truck and Engine Corporation, USA.

M&M has a global presence[10] and its products are exported to several countries.[11].Its global subsidiaries include Mahindra Europe Srl. based in Italy [12], Mahindra USA Inc., Mahindra South Africa[13] and Mahindra (China) Tractor Co. Ltd.

M&M is the third largest tractor company in the world.[14] It is also the largest manufacturer of tractors in India [15] with sustained market leadership of around 25 years. It designs, develops, manufactures and markets tractors as well as farm implements. Mahindra (China) Tractor Co. Ltd. manufactures tractors for the growing Chinese market and is a hub for tractor exports to the USA and other western nations. M&M has a 100% subsidiary, Mahindra USA, which assembles products for the American market.

ano po ba ang economies of scale?

Economies of scale arise when the cost per unit falls as output increases. Economies of scale are the main advantage of increasing the scale of production and becoming ‘big’.

large businesses buy large quantities of raw materials so they have more negotiating power

As businesses grow they need to order larger quantities of production inputs. For example, they will order more raw materials. As the order value increases, a business obtains more bargaining power with suppliers. It may be able to obtain discounts and lower prices for the raw materials.

large businesses can pass on lower cost to customers through lower prices... which would increase their market share... smaller businesses are unable to compete

large businesses have technical advantage

Businesses with large-scale production can use more advanced machinery (or use existing machinery more efficiently). This may include using mass production techniques, which are a more efficient form of production. A larger firm can also afford to invest more in research and development.

smaller businesses use more "primitive" production methods which are very inefficient

large businesses have easier access to capital, and have lower cost of capital

Many small businesses find it hard to obtain finance and when they do obtain it, the cost of the finance is often quite high. This is because small businesses are perceived as being riskier than larger businesses that have developed a good track record. Larger firms therefore find it easier to find potential lenders and to raise money at lower interest rates.

large businesses are better able promote their products

Every part of marketing has a cost – particularly promotional methods such as advertising and running a sales force. Many of these marketing costs are fixed costs and so as a business gets larger, it is able to spread the cost of marketing over a wider range of products and sales – cutting the average marketing cost per unit.

large businesses attract better talent and expertise

As a firm grows, there is greater potential for managers to specialise in particular tasks (e.g. marketing, human resource management, finance). Specialist managers are likely to be more efficient as they possess a high level of expertise, experience and qualifications compared to one person in a smaller firm trying to perform all of these roles.

realistic lang po

hindi po kasi ako DELUSIONAL

and also

opinion ko lang

[ghosthunter]

+1

........

[rhuwrx]

Add to that the unbelievable bureaucratic red tape, relatively higher labor cost(compared to china and india), and finally our country's overly enthusiastic left leaning labor groups whose only goal in life is to shut down all "imperialista" companies and factories...

and of course, we also have one of the highest electricity costs in asia, which is the single most gripe not only of the auto industry but the whole manufacturing industry in the country.

There it is, kaya naman pala. I dont want too sound negative, but that's the reality.

[jpdm]

Tata Motors Sumo



vs.

Iloilo AUV

[jpdm]

Iloilo's Pasajero sosyal jeepney


vs.
Mahindra Scorpio




Anyway, hope we can learn from the Indian auto experience

[uls]

kayang kaya gumawa ang pinoy ng mga "one-off" na sasakyan

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/one-off

one-off (wnôf, -f) Chiefly British
adj.
Happening, done, or made only once.
n.
Something that is not repeated or reproduced.

but mass production in the thousands is another question

it takes months just to build one of those unique AUVs

[jpdm]

kayang kaya gumawa ang pinoy ng mga "one-off" na sasakyan

but mass production in the thousands is another question

it takes months just to build one of those unique AUVs

Actually, you are correct and I agree here.

[jpdm]

Lagangan Auto Design of the Philippines



vs. Tata Nano of India




The Lagangan Auto must have proper financing, technology and marketing (and market) to be successful.

[ghosthunter]

The Lagangan Auto must have proper financing, technology and marketing (and market) to be successful.

You forgot to add "proper automotive design".

Making fiberglass one-offs is not the same as being a real car manufacturer. That might be acceptable for prototyping but if you have no facility to mass produce such designs, wouldn't that be an exercise in futility?

Making something to look like a car is not the same as making something to function as a car.

[jpdm]

You forgot to add "proper automotive design".

Making fiberglass one-offs is not the same as being a real car manufacturer. That might be acceptable for prototyping but if you have no facility to mass produce such designs, wouldn't that be an exercise in futility?

Making something to look like a car is not the same as making something to function as a car.

Agree sir

[jpdm]

Great Wall Motor

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[OldSchoolHack]

if you build it (pinoy car), they (locals) will just admire it

they will say "ang galing pala ng pinoy noh?"

but they will not buy it

they will still buy Hondas and Toyotas and BMWs

Yeah it is sad but true.
Maybe it's time we change our mindset.