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    #21
    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    I still follow the sequence of
    Knowledge
    Diagnosis
    Repair
    In that particular sequence.
    I avoid making mistakes that way.

    This have been outlined by John Remling in his earlier textbooks that I used in my classes for more than two decades.
    "An Engineering Approach"

    Following this, you are able to point out the problem in the proper sequence without guessing.

    I remember one chief engineer and we had a problem with the steering system. He randomly replaced magnetic contactors, time relays, etc., until he got the "correct" one.

    The bad thing is, he didn't put back the "original" ones but instead put a label in the box as "used but still good".

    I don't think I can trust the "label" should the time come that I need to replace parts.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    "An Engineering Approach"

    Following this, you are able to point out the problem in the proper sequence without guessing.

    I remember one chief engineer and we had a problem with the steering system. He randomly replaced magnetic contactors, time relays, etc., until he got the "correct" one.

    The bad thing is, he didn't put back the "original" ones but instead put a label in the box as "used but still good".

    I don't think I can trust the "label" should the time come that I need to replace parts.
    yes. it seems weird.
    why replace a perfectly good part?

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    #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Archerfish View Post
    "An Engineering Approach"

    Following this, you are able to point out the problem in the proper sequence without guessing.

    I remember one chief engineer and we had a problem with the steering system. He randomly replaced magnetic contactors, time relays, etc., until he got the "correct" one.

    The bad thing is, he didn't put back the "original" ones but instead put a label in the box as "used but still good".

    I don't think I can trust the "label" should the time come that I need to replace parts.









    An expensive and time consuming guesswork.

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by jick.cejoco View Post
    I still follow the sequence of
    Knowledge
    Diagnosis
    Repair
    In that particular sequence.
    I avoid making mistakes that way.

    This have been outlined by John Remling in his earlier textbooks that I used in my classes for more than two decades.
    You are right bro. I would think nobody here questions the use of sound methodology for troubleshooting. What we are merely offering here is your #1 - knowledge. Knowledge distilled from thousands of owners of this specific car model spanning more than a decade. A clueless mechanic, no matter how competent, will still waste a lot of time isolating and diagnosing but a specialist goes straight to test and check for known issues simply because it is folly to ignore the available body of evidence.

    In fact, Technical Service Bulletins (TSB) of dealerships use this same approach wherein they first check to rule out if the customer complaint is caused by a known issue before proceeding to general troubleshooting.

    Knowledge and experience lang naman ino-offer namin dito para hindi maloko at mapa gastos ng walang katuturan yung TS. At the end of the day, the diagnosis will still depend on the findings of the mechanic. And the eventual repair job is up to the TS whether he accepts the recommendations of the mechanic or not.

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    #25
    One of the first things I do is to consult the TSBs, and sometimes, community repairs that Alldata- one of information system I use.
    You still have to test, verify and confirm before jumping the gun. Sometimes I consult the iATN or international automotive technicians' network.

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    #26
    dumugo ilong ko kakabasa...
    sabi nga ng isang legend na si sir danny/daknee...
    umpisahan natin sa pinakamura at tested na solusyon...
    1.) remove spacer - Dito pa lang nasolusyunan na problema ko till now okay pa din... Civic kasi ang topic so based to sa exp.
    2.) replace Ac Relay -pag di pa din lumamig ito palitan next..
    3.) magnetic coil assembly
    4.) Compressor Repair
    5.) Compressor Replace

    kung may pera go sa casa... baka sabihin sayo replace ka na ng compressor mahina na syang magbuga. based din sa exp. hohoho

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    #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikmik Man View Post
    dumugo ilong ko kakabasa...
    sabi nga ng isang legend na si sir danny/daknee...
    umpisahan natin sa pinakamura at tested na solusyon...
    1.) remove spacer - Dito pa lang nasolusyunan na problema ko till now okay pa din... Civic kasi ang topic so based to sa exp.
    2.) replace Ac Relay -pag di pa din lumamig ito palitan next..
    3.) magnetic coil assembly
    4.) Compressor Repair
    5.) Compressor Replace

    kung may pera go sa casa... baka sabihin sayo replace ka na ng compressor mahina na syang magbuga. based din sa exp. hohoho
    ito pala ay pagkatapos ma general cleaning ng Air condition system ng auto dahil sa pag aakalang madumi, barado, palitin na, may leak, kulang sa freon, sira na fans & many more...

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