Help: Pano malalaman kung butas ang condenser?

**myksandiego** · November 23rd, 2009 12:52 AM

:trumpet: panu po kaya malalaman kung butas ang CONDENSER NG AIRCON? prone pa naman po ito sa mga tumatalsik na bato along the way.

**cocoy_01** · November 23rd, 2009 01:38 AM

This is removed from the system, cleaned and pressurized tapos lublob sa tubig to see if it has leaks.

Oldschool.

**dealermate** · December 11th, 2009 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by myksandiego

:trumpet: panu po kaya malalaman kung butas ang CONDENSER NG AIRCON? prone pa naman po ito sa mga tumatalsik na bato along the way.

visual check lang boss tingnan mo condenser mo kung may mantsa ng oil,pag may leak kasi ang system mo kasama sa leak o pagtakas ng refrigerant mo ang oil na kasamang umiikot sa system.

**jick.cejoco** · December 11th, 2009 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by cocoy_01

This is removed from the system, cleaned and pressurized tapos lublob sa tubig to see if it has leaks.

Oldschool.

cocoy,
this practice is only done in the philippines for shops who do not want to spend on electronic leak detector or at the very least halide leak detector for R12 systems. this practice is totally idiotic. sometimes the leak is in the O-rings that connect the condenser or other aircon component for that matter. now, if the leak was from that O-ring, it will not show on the bubble bath you just mentioned. you might as well get a spray bottle filled with soapy water and spray on the suspected area. leaks forms bubbles if there is still residual pressure in the system
jick

**bambino** · December 12th, 2009 09:23 PM

electonic leak detector is yhe name of the game para no guessing

**dealermate** · December 19th, 2009 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by bambino

electonic leak detector is yhe name of the game para no guessing

may mga kaso ng leak na di kayang idetect ng leak detector, halimbawa kung ang system ay wala ng refrigerant wala ng madedetect ang leak detector dahil ang ipapasok na pressure ay di naman muna refrigerant agad para di masayang ang refrigerant ambiant air lang ang gagamitin gamit ang compressor. pwede din refrigerant ang ilagay para madetect ng leak detector pero sa mahal ng refrigerant nakapang hihinayang na gamitin lang sa leak test ito.

advisable pa din dito ang tubig at sabon

**bambino** · December 19th, 2009 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by dealermate

may mga kaso ng leak na di kayang idetect ng leak detector, halimbawa kung ang system ay wala ng refrigerant wala ng madedetect ang leak detector dahil ang ipapasok na pressure ay di naman muna refrigerant agad para di masayang ang refrigerant ambiant air lang ang gagamitin gamit ang compressor. pwede din refrigerant ang ilagay para madetect ng leak detector pero sa mahal ng refrigerant nakapang hihinayang na gamitin lang sa leak test ito.

advisable pa din dito ang tubig at sabon

kailangan talaga i seminar yung mga tech natin para malaman ang tamang paraan ng paggawa ng AC.

TO DO A LEAK TEST ,PERFORMANCE TEST MUNA .
CHECK THE PRESSURE , RECOVER AND EVACUATE THE SYSTEM AND CHARGE
1/1O KG OF REFRIGERANT AND IF NOT ENOUGH PRESSURE,ADD NITROGEN GAS AT 150PSI (NOT SHOP AIR THAT'S NOT A PROPER PRACTICE)

NOW WERE READY FOR ELECTRONIC LEAK TESTING .
OF COURSE THE TECH WILL KNOW IF THE SYSTEM IS EMPTY OR NOT.

WERE NOT GOING TO USE A KILO OR TWO OF REFRIGERANT JUST TO DO A LEAK TEST HERE.ITS COMMON SENSE

**Cobalt Blue** · December 25th, 2009 01:44 AM

Another way is to the traditional mekaniko visual inspection. I noticed that they check if there is an area saturated with dirt because of the oil. If there is such they test it with soap.

I hope meron na mga ganyan mga digital methods kasi sometimes trial and error back job lagi sayang ang freon at napupunta lang sa hangin.

**jick.cejoco** · December 25th, 2009 06:52 AM

Originally Posted by Cobalt Blue

Another way is to the traditional mekaniko visual inspection. I noticed that they check if there is an area saturated with dirt because of the oil. If there is such they test it with soap.

I hope meron na mga ganyan mga digital methods kasi sometimes trial and error back job lagi sayang ang freon at napupunta lang sa hangin.

cobalt blue,
some areas visible are checked this way, some areas not clearly visible can be checked with soapy water but the evaporator area is concealed and can not be checked visually for evidence of oil leak nor with soapy water. but the electronic leak detector makes leaks easily found.
jick

**bambino** · December 25th, 2009 08:22 AM

^^ hayaan mo JICK pag uwi ko mag demo ako kung paano ang mgperform ng proper leak test sa mga ka tsikoteers natin para malaman nila ang capacity ng isang electronic leak detector .

and once na makita nila ayaw na nila yung style na baklas lahat bago testing.

it might help to upgrade the obsolete way of fixing AC SYSTEMS in our country.